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Reynolds and Hubbell discuss Mollie Tibbetts, labor rights, Me Too and climate change in third debate

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The third debate between Gov. Kim Reynolds and Democrat Fred Hubbell was held at a time guaranteed to limit viewership, 8 a.m. on Sunday. That was a shame, because this was the most informative of the three debates. During the first two, the questions were on such already well-covered topics that both candidates largely just repeated lines from their campaign ads and stump speeches.

But the Sunday morning debate in Davenport addressed issues that haven’t gotten much attention during the campaign and went unmentioned in previous debates. The new topics ranged from the intensely local (the politicization of the death of Mollie Tibbetts) to the national (the Me Too movement) to one affecting the entire world (climate change).

Between delivering the same opening and closing statements they did at both previous debates, these were the most important new topics the candidates addressed.

Politics and the murder of Mollie Tibbetts

University of Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts disappeared on July 18, while jogging near her home in the Poweshiek County town of Brooklyn. On Aug. 21, Cristhian Bahena Rivera, an undocumented immigrant from Mexico working on a large farm in Poweshiek County, was arrested for her murder, after leading authorities to her body, which had been hidden in a corn field.

Less than 20 minutes after the Iowa Department of Public Safety began its Aug. 21 press conference announcing the arrest, the governor sent out an official statement that concluded:

As Iowans, we are heartbroken, and we are angry. We are angry that a broken immigration system allowed a predator like this to live in our community, and we will do all we can bring justice to Mollie’s killer.

At the debates, Reynolds was asked, “Governor, your first statement on [Tibbetts’] death brought up the need for immigration reform. The comment was chastised for coming off as political ‘too soon’ in the grieving process. Do you have any regrets about making that statement?”

Reynolds began her reply, “I am very consistent in calling on Washington D.C. to implement immigration reform.”

The governor continued to focus on Congress not passing immigration reform in her answer, rather than her response to the crime. The closest she came to addressing the substance of the question was: “This was a tragic death and we don’t want to see any more of that. Any death is tragic. But they [Congress] are responsible for immigration reform.”

Hubbell was blunt, when it was his turn to speak.

“In response to your question, I think the governor’s statement was completely political,” he said.

After noting that Tibbetts’ family had objected to the politicization of her murder, Hubbell added,

It’s not immigration, it’s not about politics, it’s about public safety. That’s what the issue here. This governor has been cutting the public safety budget for the last two years — $11 million. Do we really want to make people safe in our communities and in our homes and on our streets? Let’s fund public safety, let’s listen to our public safety officers.

 

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Collective bargaining

In 2017, the Republican-led Iowa legislature fast-tracked a bill that gutted collective bargaining rights for state employees. Now, teachers and almost all other state employees can only engage in collective bargaining on wages and not on other issues, such as healthcare benefits or workplace rules. The arbitration process that is often used to determine the final contract was also changed, to give much greater weight to the wishes of the employers.

Since the bill was signed into law by Gov. Terry Branstad, while Reynolds was lieutenant governor, a member of the debate’s media panel asked her, “Do you support those changes, nonetheless, and if you do, why were they necessary?”

“What those changes did was actually brought taxpayers to the table and gave them a seat at the table,” the governor said. “But most importantly, what it did is it provide schools and local governments and the state the flexibility to manage the resources that they have.”

Hubbell began his reply by recapping the history of Chapter 20, the section of Iowa code that covers collective bargaining for state employees.

Let’s go back to the mid-1970s. There was an agreement between [Gov.] Bob Ray and a bipartisan legislature, controlled by Republicans, for teachers and state workers to give up the right to strike in exchange for getting collective bargaining. It was a trade, it was a common agreement. It’s been that way for over 45 years, and it worked just fine in our state. We didn’t need to change it. In fact, I think it was purely for political reasons they wanted to do that. They wanted to reduce the impact of labor unions in the state, for the benefit of the Republican Party.

“It has nothing to do with being good for our state,” Hubbell added, before saying he would work to restore the collective bargaining rights agreed to in the 1970s.

“Now teachers, state workers don’t have the right to strike or collective bargaining,” he said. “It’s not fair.”

 

The Me Too movement

The candidates were asked to address President Trump’s characterization of the Me Too movement as a “dangerous” movement that “has unfairly threatened an entire class of powerful men.”

Hubbell went first, and as he has done throughout the campaign when asked about Trump, he declined to engage with Trump’s comments. “I’m running for governor of Iowa,” he said.

Pressed for an answer, Hubbell replied, “I think the Me Too movement is bringing a lot of good ideas, and recognition of some challenges that we’re facing in our country that have not been properly addressed. Sexual harassment, sexual assault have been prevalent in our country.”

Reynolds answered a question in a way that echoed the Republican Party line on sexual harassment that developed during the hearings on Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.

“I believe that we’ve seen a paradigm shift, and I appreciate women who are finding the courage to step up. I believe they should be heard, but I believe both sides should be heard,” Reynolds said. “So, I believe that it’s encouraging to see women find the courage to step up, it’s important that we listen. But it’s also important that we hear both sides of the story.”

 

Climate change

Earlier this month, the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released a report that said there must “far-reaching and unprecedented changes in all aspects of society” before 2030 to avoid catastrophic consequences from climate change. Both candidates were asked if they accepted that climate change is happening, that it is driven by human activity and that it will have a major impact on the world.

“I think it’s a factor. I think it’s overstated,” Reynolds said. “But I believe that we are working hard every day to do our part, especially when it comes to renewables [wind energy and ethanol].”

“I believe in science,” Hubbell began. He noted that scientists in Iowa issue an annual report on the impact of climate change in the state. He concluded by saying, “We shouldn’t ignore it, we need to move fast and be able to prepare for climate change, global warming, changing weather patterns — whatever you want to call it. It’s happening.”

 

Both candidates, along with Libertarian Jake Porter and independent candidate Gary Siegwarth, will be on the ballot for governor in the general election on Nov. 6.


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